This the second mail that I exchanged with the Christian missionary regarding Saint Theresa. The subject title (Saint Theresa II) might make you smile, but that's the way it is and it's serious too.
The lady writes thus in her second mail
Dear Hasan,
Thanks for writing to me - i am totally against all these. because I believe in living GOD. My GOD IS STILL ALIVE. He always replies for my prayers, may be it is through a Saint, may be it is through a begger, may be in anyother way - It shows, that he listen to me and my prayers.
I cannot argue with you,i never studied Qur'aan - but dear hasan please understand, Saint Teresa is not a God- but a representative of GOD Like Mohammad. A MESSENGER
when we were children , we never asked our fatherS directly for any permission LIKE AN ESCURTION OR A TRIP - do you??? certainly not. We always use the sources, which is your mother, uncle , Aunt or anybodyelse who is very close to your father WHY?????
because you know may be your father will not agree...or you cannot convice him fully, as your mother can or anybodyelse can... am i right????
here is we are also using a mediater to GOD which through his mother Marry or any Saints. We are Praising GOD - Thanks him and Worship him not the statue of ....... to bringing your mind to GOD we need a Face ... We are not worship the air which is created by GOD... He is the only creature of everything.....
you cannot blame anybody - any religion like that....fianlly you have believe the Fact
JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD- YOU ONLY MENTIONED - MOTHER MARRY DID NOT KNOW ANY MAN,STILL SHE GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS.. HOW CAN SHE THEN GAVE A BIRTH TO CHILD?
THE ANGEL SAID EVERYTHING. is possible by GOD... you also did ,you send me 17 times the same mails to me - so you forwarded it ... and it is with St. Theresa's phot and prayer was there. GOD made to you do so. YOU ARE ONE OF GOD'S SELECTED CHILD.
MAY THE GOD BLESS YOU TO REALISE WHO IS WHO. .. WE WILL BE IN TOUCH LIKE THIS ON THIS MAILS.
I HEARD THAT QU'RAAN MENTIONED MOTHER MARRY'S NAME 3 TIMES. NO OTHER LADY NAME IN THE WHOLE QU'RAAN. IS IT TRUE?
"BIBLE SAYS, WHOEVER REJECT MY MOTHER WILL NOT ENTER INTO ETERNAL LIFE."
Take care
Thanks for your precious time to taken out to read it.
Achamma
My reply to the above mail
Dear lady Achamma,
You are against all this but still you propagate it? No doubt, everybody's God is alive. It is the personal gods that have passed away. You are also true when you say that your God replies. He feeds and heals even those who associate partners unto Him and you are no exception.
God has always bestowed apostleship only on men, not on women. No woman has ever been an apostle. From Adam to Muhammad (peace be upon them all), they all have been men. Your Saint Teresa can't be compared with Muhammad or any other prophet. These apostles were the chosen ones. By the way, on what authority you say that Saint Teresa is a representative of God? I am keen to know that. If you haven't studied Qur'aan, then you should know this last revelation. It's the confirmation of the revelations that went before it.
"This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah. on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds." (Qur'aan, 10:37)
You say that Saint Teresa is a representative of God, like Muhammad. If you admit that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was a messenger then what's the problem in following him? You see, just being good on lips is not enough. It will not serve any purpose. It should be manifested in our deeds. Actually, manifesting through deeds is more difficult than of course just doing the lip service.
You say that to bring to your mind God, you need face (or in other words statue). Actually, that's the common argument put forth by all those who bow down before lifeless idols, made of clay and stone. I also gave you example of an idol in my previous mail also, but I think you didn't get it. I thought it was only my grasping power, which is weak, but you have left me behind. So why only statue or idol made by man only, if you say that you need a face to bring to your mind God? Why not something natural, made by God Himself. For example, may be horse, frog, pigeon, Lion (but that might scare you), camel, etc. There are so many other animals and things created by God for you to choose from. Or you think you are better sculptor?
Your arguments make me laugh. There is no harm in giving examples, but they should be relevant. For example, here is the one given by you and I quote, "when we were children , we never asked our fatherS directly for any permission LIKE AN ESCURTION OR A TRIP - do you??? certainly not. We always use the sources, which is your mother, uncle , Aunt or anybodyelse who is very close to your father WHY????? because you know may be your father will not agree...or you cannot convice him fully, as your mother can or anybodyelse can... am i right????"
This is what Almighty says for people like you;
And your Lord says: "Call on Me; I will answer your (Prayer): but those who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell - in humiliation!" (Qur'aan, 40:60)
When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way. (Qur'aan, 2:186)
You see, this is the error that many people make, even Muslims, but it has nothing to do with Islam. They make the graves of the saints as places of worship and they say (as you say now) that we worship God only, but we make these pious souls just a medium to reach God. Has God erected any barriers for commoners like me that He can't be approached directly? Just as we have got so much used to paying bribes to get our files moving in the government offices (read India), the same stupid principle we apply in relation to God also.
Even Muhammad (peace be upon him) advised his followers to visit graves, but not to make them a mediator, but rather to supplicate for the departed soul that Allah may forgive his sins and grant him place in the heaven. He even instructed his followers that my grave should not be made a place of assembly. And Muslims do go to Medina to prophet's grave but they only send peace and blessings on him, they do not bow down before him. You see, these are tricks of Satan, our avowed enemy to deviate man from the true path. The only thing that can save us from Satan and his ways is Qur'aan and Sunnah (prophet Muhammad’s way of life) and this is what he bid to his followers in his last sermon, also called the farewell pilgrimage.
I am not blaming any religion, neither I am using any bad language. If I say anything against the prophets or God then you can say that I am blaming or using words, which I shouldn't be using, and I am not so stupid that I will use such words and make myself worthy of Allah's wrath. In fact, the people who associate divinity with Jesus (peace be upon him) or anybody else and reject Muhammad (peace be upon him) as the last prophet are rejecting Commands of Allah. It looks like, as if they are saying that look God! We have devised a better way of life than the one You kept sending through your messengers and the one that culminated with Muhammad (peace be upon him).
You see, there is something very typical I have seen in Christians, specially missionaries. You also seem like one. Ask what? And it's that no matter how crystal clear you make things to them, but somehow they twist and turn and change the meaning of things. The same thing they do with the word trinity also to prove it as one. They say the Father, the Holy Ghost/Spirit and the son (Jesus) are three but one. But when asked to explain, they give stupid examples to prove their point. But Islam teaches us that your God is One, absolutely one. For example, when I raise my one finger, it's one finger. If you try to make fault with it by saying anything other than one, then it means that something is wrong with you. You need a thorough check up, specially of your brain and heart. It's not only limited with fingers only, it goes beyond that. It's backed up by deeds. We pray only to one God. But as said, earlier, those Muslims who make graves of saints as places of prostration are doing against the teachings of Islam. It has nothing to do with Islam. But a Christian missionary raises his 3 fingers and gets down to start explaining and proving that these 3 fingers that you see are 3 but one. Please spare us. Please go to poor guys give them money and purchase their beliefs. I, on the other hand, am not asking you to bow down before Muhammad (peace be upon him). I am inviting you worship none but God and believe in all the prophets and all the revelations. Islam is an Arabic word, it means nothing but peaceful submission to the will of Allah. And I do not bribe you with material things, on the contrary, I warn you that look brother, it’s not easy to walk on Path that is True and Straight. It has never been. When you walk in the way of Allah, He for sure will test you. If you pass, the test, then you are a true believer. I also do not invite you to accept Islam blindly. I invite you to use your brain and heart and decide for yourself without any prejudice. If you find it True, accept it. If you do not, Allah is well above all wants. He neither needs you nor me. If you bow down before God, it’s for your own benefit. Neither you are doing any favour to me nor to God.
Coming to your/missionaries special ability to decipher meanings, in other words, to twist and turn the meanings, you say that I accept Jesus (peace be upon him) as son of God. I most humbly, would like to ask you where did I say so (both in this mail and my earlier mail)? You see Achamma, I need to remind you about something. You are not against me, you are up against Almighty and His religion and that's why Islam means peaceful submission to the will of Allah. What does Christianity mean by the way? Anyways. I am a Muslim and lying is haraam (impermissible) for me. Whereas for missionaries like you, lying is just a game. The God is very well aware of the tricks of the missionaries like you and that's why wherever He has mentioned the name of Jesus (peace be upon him), He has used the suffix "son of Mary". So the question doesn't arise of me saying Jesus is the son of God. You got to be honest; Jesus (peace be upon him) was amongst the honest. First you need to learn honesty.
It seems like you have not read my mail fully. You say and I quote, "Jesus is the son of God – you only mentioned – mother Marry did not know any man, still she gave birth to Jesus.. How can she then gave a birth to child"?
To answer to your question how she gave birth to Jesus (peace be upon him), when no man had ever touched him, this is what I quoted in my mail, which you didn't have the courage to face it.
She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is! And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel" (Qur'aan, 3:47&48)
I explain to you the meaning of the above verse, if your English is weak (which I believe is) because you are failing every now and then to understand simple things. When Mary (may Allah be pleased be her) said to angel that how can she have a child when no man ever touched him, the angel replied that Allah creates what He Wills. When He wills a plan he says to it "Be" and "There it Is".
You say, I quote, "I heard that Qur'aan mentioned mother Marry's name 3 times. No other lady name in the whole Qur'aan. Is it true?"
I can't say whether it's 3 times or what, but I believe it's most probably more than 3 times and if I am not wrong, then Jesus's (peace be upon him) name has been mentioned in Qur'aan more than Muhammad's (peace be upon him) name. I will tell you more, if you do not know about Mary (may Allah be pleased with her) as a Christian. I quote few verses for you here;
“And Lo! The angels said: "O Mary! Behold, God has elected thee and made thee pure, and raised thee above all the women of the world. (Qur'aan, 3:42)
“And [remember] her who guarded her chastity, whereupon We breathed into her of Our spirit and caused her, together with her son, to become a symbol [of Our grace] unto all people.” (Qur'aan, 21:91)
“And [as We exalted Moses, so, too,] We made the son of Mary and his mother a symbol [of Our grace], and provided for both an abode in a lofty place of lasting restfulness and unsullied springs. “ (Qur'aan, 23:50)
Please do not tell me what Bible says. It's gone corrupt beyond recognition. I will inshaAllah quote you few verses from the Bible in my next mail and will ask you then, can these be the words of God. But that's for the next mail.
I would like to make humble suggestion to you. You should at least add the suffix "peace be upon him/her" when you take the name of Jesus, Mary or any other prophet, out of nothing but reverence. You do not feel ashamed by taking their names callously, but you are ready to bow down before them. This is nothing but sheer hypocrisy.
All praise be to Allah! You say, I quote, "you also did you send me 17 times the same mails to me - so you forwarded it ... and it is with St. Theresa's phot and prayer was there. GOD made to you do so. You are one of God's selected child."
Reading your above lines, make me smile. But I will make a slight correction here. Yes, God did make me spread His message through you. Allah doesn't depend on me or Muslims or anyone else. He is to make His religion prevail over all others; this is the decree of thy Lord, no matter how much the non-believers dislike it. As for "God selected child", I do feel that Allah has blessed me with something so precious and that is the wealth of Eemaan (Faith). It's better than the heavens and the earth and everything in that is in between them.
I warn you of a severe punishment that awaits those who reject faith.
"Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed."
(Qur'aan, 4:48)
In the end I humbly invite you to Islam so that you may prosper and save yourself from the eternal hell fire.
"If anyone desires religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him." (Qur'aan, 3:85)
May God bless you and please take care
In the service of mankind,
Hasan
P.S.: The text in green is a later addition. I have also corrected few mistakes here and there, which I made in my original mail. I have not marked them green because they are not addition, but correction. Though the lady wrote in her mail that she will be in touch through mails, but I am yet to receive any mail from her concerning whatever we exchanged through couple of mails. I cannot help, but quote a verse from Qur'aan in this regard.
And say: "Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish." (Qur'aan, 17:81)
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